Yayoi linked to Yangtze area: DNA tests reveal similarities to early wet-rice farmers
“Some of the first wet-rice farmers in Japan might have migrated from the lower basin of China’s Yangtze River more than 2,000 years ago, Japanese and Chinese researchers said Thursday.
This was suggested by DNA tests conducted by the researchers that showed genetic similarities between human remains from the Yayoi Period found in southwestern Japan and the early Han Dynasty found in China’s central Jiangsu Province, Satoshi Yamaguchi told reporters.
People who introduced irrigation techniques to the Japanese archipelago in the Yayoi Period (250 B.C.-300) were believed to have come to Japan either from the Korean Peninsula across the Tsushima Strait, or from northern China across the Yellow Sea.
The latest findings, however, bolster another theory suggesting the origin of the Yayoi people was an area south of the Yangtze, which is believed to be the birthplace of irrigated rice cultivation.
Yamaguchi, a researcher at Japan’s National Science Museum, said the researchers compared Yayoi remains found in Yamaguchi and Fukuoka prefectures with those from early Han (202 B.C.-8) in Jiangsu in a three-year project begun in 1996.
The researchers found many similarities between the skulls and limbs of Yayoi people and the Jiangsu remains.
Two Jiangsu skulls showed spots where the front teeth had been pulled, a practice common in Japan in the Yayoi and preceding Jomon Period.
But the most persuasive findings resulted from tests revealing that genetic samples from three of 36 Jiangsu skeletons also matched part of the DNA base arrangements of samples from the Yayoi remains, the scientists said. ”
This suggests the relationship between the Japanese and Chinese based on an argument of their ancestral tribes.
Source: Trussel News
This blood type unlike what we are accustomed to is called GM blood type was a method used by the Japanese Doctor Matsumoto to answer his own question of “Where are the Japanese from?”. According to him, everyone must originate from somewhere and this natural curiosity instigated him into making the map above.
ag – presented in Japanese by around 50% concentration. Over 60% in Ainu and 40% in Northern Han.
ab3st – Presented in Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Ainu, and Eskimos.
afb1b3 – Constitute most of the Thailand population and even more in Borneo.
axg – Presented in all Asians, most people, little or none in black and white.
fb1b3 – White
fb1c – n/a
ab1c – Black
ab1b3 – Central Africa and black.
ab3s – n/a
1) You cannot ignore geographical location. Korean Peninsula is closer to Japan rather then Yangzte river to Japan.
2) Jomon and Yayoi Tribe came from Korean Peninsula.
3) Chinese never had direct contact with Japanese Islanders. All contacts were done
4) Majority of 80 percent of Japanese nobles traces to Korean origin ( Korguryo, Paekje, Shilla Kingdoms).
5) Kansai area you will find more ” Kudara” Paekje signs then any Chinese Kingdoms.
You are perfectly right, professor, and I also think Korea is underestimated in the map. Korea and Japan are and nowhere in the world so similar nations situated so near. Only YDNA haplogroup D is prevalent in Japan and C is a bit more in Korea. Korean actors, sportsmen, dishes rae so popular in Japan.
Queen Himiko, when asked by Chinese ambassadors, said that her royal house descended from princes in East China. Do you think this could refer to a Dongyi migration from Shandong to southernmost Korea (Kaya) where they blended with Tungusics and thereafter invaded Jomon Japan as the Yayoi? Korean (like Japanese) has a substrate which sets it apart from the Altaic languages. Dongyi is supposed to have been related to Hmong, and was not Sinitic. Do you think a Dongyi influx into Korea might account for the non-Altaic part of Korean?
“descended from princes in East China” which translation is that? Do you have a reference? As far as I know, she is known to have been referred to as Ruler of Heaven in the land where the sun rises in the east – or something akin to that – which upset the Chinese emperor since the title was reserved only for Chinese rulers, and which meant Queen Himiko was elevating her status to a similar level. Queen Himiko ethnic origins (or that of her lineage) are definitely debateable – depending on whether you place Yamatai-koku or her resting place in Kyushu or Kansai. The shamanic practices (are Central Asian/pan-Siberian) but the earliest of the keyhole tomb architecture that Queen Himiko was contemporaneous with would place her as being possibly related to Gaya/Kaya kingdoms or other arguments have been made for Silla or proto-Paekche/Mahan lineages.
this is what is traditional believed because of proximity but f there is evidence especially of an origin prior to more recent migration of Koreans we cannot ignore it just because people want the Yoyoi/Japanese people to be from Korea. It’s all a matter of when not if.
What do you mean Chinese never had contact with Japan. Japan literally based their civilization on the Tang dynasty during the Nara era.
Also what do you mean “kudara” Paekje signs. The architecture is more similar to the tang dynasty. Korea was also very influenced by the Tang dynasty which is why there are similarities. Furthermore, distance is not everything. Humans have migrated much further than the Korean peninsula to Japan.
At a small part of ideas the korean professor may be is correct. But why the today koreans are taller than the today Japanese?
Why the Jomon and Yayoi Tribes came from Korean Peninsula and did not happen the opposite?
If the Jomon live for 14.000 years in Japan how many years live the koreans in their country?
When started finishing the last ice age?
Were human movements be possible for thousands of miles with tempretures below zero?
Who much food did they have with them for so long distance trips? Was it possible found food at those deggrees?
Please answer. Thank you.
This is very poor scientific reasoning based solely on appearance. Diet is a major factor in physical differences like height specifically protein content.
May be barbecue eating makes you taller than fish eating.
Yayoi were more hunters and gatherers and ate a variety of other foods.
These people sure had the best way to live, I love Your blog and the information you have on it, life was so simple looking in these times. It seems like a wonderful way of living with no worries or bills. It’s like the our father prayer, give us this day our daily bread, what a wonderful way in living
Does anyone think that the Yayoi people might have been Dongyi refugees from Shandong mixed with Tungusics? I hear that the Dongyi might have been related to the Hmong, and this may be why Japanese is different from Altaic. I have also heard that the Yezo (Jomon) were somewhat different from the Ainu, though both spoke Austroasiatic, and that the Ainu originally spoke a Uralic -related language close to Yukaghir. I have also heard that the Jomon had Melanesian blood, and that the Kumaso and Hayato of Kyushu were Austronesian from Taiwan. Thoughts, anyone?
Dongyi is a vague term used to refer to groups that occupied Eastern China and so it is probably not helpful or would be impossible to establish if Dongyi peoples formed the Gaya/Kaya populations. It is however possible to try to investigate which genetic lineages out of East China are the most likely ones that made it into Korean peninsula and ending terminally in Japan while comparing the archaeological evidence. For the Gaya period, I am assuming we shan’t be looking at the deeper layer and earlier peopling of Korea and Paleolithic-to-Jomon Japan by the C1 http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2010/05/origin-and-dispersal-of-y-chromosome.html coastal lineages (M130) from the south or the Buryat-related migrations from of the Altai-Baikal area http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.3378/1534-6617-80.3.239?journalCode=hbio / https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/lan/en/atlas.html
For the Yayoi period, we can see archaeological evidence pointing to migrations from the Shandong area (Jiangsu http://www.trussel.com/prehist/news111.htm), Fujian southern complex, but also from Mahan related societies in Korean (bronze bell and dagger cultures). Hmong tribal contributions have been suggested (The Eastward Spread of the Hmong Culture Guodong LI http://bbs.3miao.net/thread-47455-1-1.html / Genetic structure of Hmong-speaking populations… http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/22/3/725.full Y chromosomes of prehistoric people along the Yangtze River) because HM people, descendants of Daxi culture, carry the M7, G, G2 (as well as Y-DNA O3a3b) could have carried these genes to Japan. However, another likely contender for the M7 (and Y-DNA O3a3b) gene carrying population could be She or Bunu because She populations cluster the closest and according to one Y-DNA hg C study as well. There may also have been a strong Austro-asiatic migratory contribution from Y-DNA haplogroup O2b (SRY465, M176) which is exclusively found among the Korean, Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese and Indonesian populations. There are those who speculate that these are the Chinese continental contributions to Japanese populations: O2a-M95* 1.90% Yue (Jiangnan) / O2b-SRY 7.70% Mo（Harbin） / O2b1-47z 22.00% Ye（Yalijiang）/ O3-M122* 6.60% Yan（Liao）/ O3a4-LINE1 3.10% Miao（Yangze） / O3a3c-M134 10.40% Ji 箕（Shanxi) – but I don’t see any evidence on the archaeological side to corroborate this. I have huge problems with all of these “too-specific” tracing theories that pinpoint a specific tribe or city. The closest we can get to the picture is I think is the probable and rough regional origin of a particular Japanese haplogroup-lineage. Like as not, East Asia is the probable origin of more than one haplogroup lineage migrating through Korea or directly to Japan. For help on East Asian lineages, for example, we could take a look at this mtDNA map of M7; M7a (in situ branched off its own M7); M7b (China) and M7c (Sabah or Philippines from the south) http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/19/10/1737/F3.large.jpg – The Emerging Twigs of the East Asian mtDNA Tree http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/19/10/1737.full. It is suggested in the article though that all the M7 populations separated in Japan and Korea during Jomon times (which is now supported by newer studies that say agriculture (millet) and rice cultivation began in Jomon times far earlier than the supposed traditional Yayoi period. It appears that Japan was probably the terminus for a great many incoming migrating lineages. Looking at the branches of the M7 twig, you can see Japan’s M7a alongside with China, Korea or Island SEA. Haplogroups B5, B6 could be indicative of Austronesian migrations that brought neolithic culture and perhaps megalithic culture (dolmens, jar burials) although the latter are generally thought to have come from Korea because of Kyushu’s proximity (Tracing the Austronesian footprint…http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/19/10/1737.full). (Possible source of other mtDNA hg lineages: F1b (frequent in Central Asians and Mongols, Koreans) and hgs A http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/19/10/1737/F4.large.jpg and B http://wapedia.mobi/en/Haplogroup_B_(mtDNA)).
Blood immunoglobin marker studies show prevalent in Japanese populations are the Caucasoid Gm ag and axggenes northern genes Eurasian/Caucasian “Northern Mongoloid” Gm ab3st components as well as “Southern Mongoloid” afb1b3 genes http://www.geocities.jp/ikoh12/kennkyuuno_to/gm_genes_by_hideo_matsumoto.html.
Given the high northern gene markers, we can surmise there may also have been South Siberian lineages coming to Japan from the late Yayoi period through the Kofun periods although the high Northern Mongoloid marker showing can be most probably attributed to Baikal-Buryat migrations. Iranian and Uralian populations may have contributed some of the northern Caucasoid genes. Studies show the Mongoloid F1b gene is more frequent in Central Asians and Mongols, Koreans, and Japanese. Gaya/Kofun period horse/weapon tomb artefacts have similarities to those of the Ordos Culture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordos_culture (which is possibly related to the Xiongnu culture) – who are thought to have genetic descendants in the Daurs http://www.ethnic-china.com/Daur/daurintro.htm of Inner Mongoli a (carriers of O2b Y-DNA) http://www.ethnic-china.com/Daur/daurintro.htm. (who also possibly synomymous with or have affinities to the Manchurians who were also 02b carriers-and the Qidan ancestors of Daurs http://china.org.cn/english/2001/Aug/16896.htm).
sorry i correct it! indonesian have O2, same as chinese not O1b!
korean and japanese and manchus have a same O1b2
you are reasoning from a point of view of language similarities/differences? this is nonsense. Japanese people are an island nation so the isolation could produce any variation of language but of course written language is almost exclusively a result of exposure to Chinese literature.
Re your question about the Ezo (Emishi) and the Jomon, the Emishi website has a number of persuasive theories: Who were the Emishi http://emishi-ezo.net/WhoEmishi.htm / see also Emishi, Kofun Culture and the Expansion of Yamato http://emishi-ezo.net/emishi_kofun.html / Jomon Culture and the Emishi http://emishi-ezo.net/jomon.html
Modern day Koreans and japanese share O2b Korean genes. O2b is shared by 72 percent among modern day japanese.
So…this would mean that the modern day Japanese are descendents from the Han Chinese.
Also, there is a legend popular in China and Japan about Xu Fu, who came to Japan searching for the elixir of life. He brought with him 500 boys and 500 girls, and the legend concluded that he settled in Japan & became the first emperor of Japan. (Coincidentally, those 500 boys and 500 girls would be the ancestors of the modern day Japanese)
I’m sorry but that is a legend. And again, if there were actually 500 girls and boys going to Japan, the Chinese people must have noticed about the settlement. The two countries’ must have had a real close bond with each other since the Japanese people (from the legend) must have originally come XU FU people. Ironically, both did not have a great relationship and funny thing is that the Japanese people actually ADOPTED things from China and Korea back then. If your legend is true, why would they adopt the techniques? They have the culture and the technology already.
your reasoning is flawed. They would adopt new technologies that developed after they had moved into Japan. but anyway it is a myth.
Glacial maximum happened at 23kyp and yayoi is around 20kyp. At that time, taiwan was connected to mainland and lots of east china sea was land. So from hong kong/taiwan/japan/korea/land at east china sea was jomon. Sea level began rising and I think that was part of reason why these people migrated to americas as well as back toward se asia and eventually became polynesian.
Korea peninsula was a part of China at the Han dynasty period, that was the same time of Yayoi civilization in Japan. At the time there’s only China in the regions that can build a huge ship that carry thousands of people to the Japan Island, Koreans were a small tribes in the emerging civilization that had no capacity to do a huge project like that.
No offense but i think you are getting the mathematics a little wrong. Yayoi culture did not emerge out of nowhere. Yayoi culture existed because the immigrants came, and the beggining of the yayoi culture was before the Han expansion to Korea. This would mean that to start the Yayoi, rather than a continual expansion of Han china which is hard to happen (because they would have had to settle the Korean penninsula before a succeding expansion), a pre-existing Korean civilization sending people to Japan would be more reliable. The current hypothesis that the joint research team of korea and japan suggested was that the Wiman Joseon dynasty of korea fell under the Han empire and its refugees sailed all the way to japan creating the yayoi culture. You see, though there are very few records left about Wiman Joseon, the records suggest that Wiman became a well established nation developed enough to match its powers with some of the strongest chinese warring states era kingdoms, thanks to the Chinese immigrants. This resembles a lot of the beggining of the Yayoi, too. Furthurmore, if Han chinese were first to immigrate to Japan then they would have had information on the land at the beggining, which they didn’t. Not much direct Chinese effect on Japanese grounds before 5th century A.D are found while there are bunchfull of Korean-styled tombs, bronze swords, jewerlies found in Japan, too. Han chinese declined the entire penninsula only after two or more centuries, and they had lost the control of the southern part even earlier. Considering that Yayoi culture thrived even when Han chinese withdraw korea, it would be more likely that Korean refugees consistantly immigrated to kushu and eventually started the yayoi, which became the Yamato civilization along with the Korean kingdoms like Baekjae, Goguryeo, Silla, Gaya, etc.
your reasoning is flawed. There was a land bridge from Korea. Why would you need a huge ship to cross the Yellow sea? and why would thousands need to come at once? You make many assumptions.
why couldn’t the Yayoi people be a combo of both Koreans and Chinese and anyone else who paddled there?
most believe the Chines during the Qin Dynasty had something to do with the Yayoi because of the technologies found (Bronze artifacts etc.)
The evidence, both archaeological and genetic, points to multiple origins and sources, depending on location in Japan, And even on any particular one island, there are different communities of different origins, co-existing, consolidating or in a state of flux. There are three different genetic strains of Yayoi rice isolated (found fairly evenly distributed throughout Japan up to the northeastern boundaries), one is Korean, another is a strain not found in Korea, and the third is a hybrid. The material culture of the Yayoi is also mixed, of Korean, Chinese, and not discounting others of undetermined (but quickly clarifying) Eurasian origins. The main pottery and rice implements, that spread through Yayoi Japan, nevertheless, resemble Korean ones most. News articles like this one, we need to remember only present a snapshot of a place in a specific time. The Japanese island populations whether during Jomon, Yayoi and Kofun eras, were always heterogenous … despite the ostensible overarching similarities.
I would also be careful to assume that because any excavated evidence is associated with tribes or relic sites from certain locations in Qin-China or Korea, that they are necessarily Chinese or Korean … Depending on the era, the evidence could equally point to a foreign tribe entering or invading or settling China or Korea at the time. There are recent scholarly articles indicating non-Han Chinese tribes, genetic and material culture) during Qin, Xia, Shang and Zhou, particularly in the Southwest, but also all along the Yangtze and/ Yellow River to the East. Keeping an open mind and thinking in terms of migrant lineages, and also allowing for the possibility of parallel downstream (cousin) lineages as opposed to derived populations, would allow for better success in the work of piecing together the complex prehistoric-protohistoric peopling scenes.
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You make NO SENSE when it comes to the origins of the Japanese. Yayoi is clearly Korean and the fact there is Yayoi in Jiangsu merely testifies that the Yayoi was ALSO located down there. Japanese language is SOV JUST LIKE KOREAN unlike the Chinese Mandarin language. O2b is MOSTLY found in Korea and Japan as well. Korean and Japanese have nearly the same GM blood type! There has been Japanese scholars who claim that Japanese are Korean and not Chinese. The Emperor of Japan states he has Korean lineage – Baekje Kingdom – and Baekje had 22 colonial sites from Japan all the way down to Vietnam/Indonesia! Many of Japanese coveted national treasures are KOREAN! Chinese and the Japanese have been trying to downplay Korea’s heritage when in fact Korea is THE FAR EAST nation. Manchurians who are even more related to the Koreans had RULED China for hundreds of years and in Manchurian HISTORY BOOKS they claim they were Koreans! Manchu leader Nurhachi offered Korea help against the Japanese Invasion. This explains why Manchurians NEVER absorbed Korea in their Empire because they considered it there mother country. There is NO CHINA. Northern Chinese are not the same people of Southern China! “Han” Chinese is a myth perpetuated by the PRC in order to brainwash their people to hold the country together. “China” has always been controlled by the Northern Asiatics. Hongshan neolithic culture is one of the oldest neolithic culture and it is up there by inner Mongolia. Hongshan is Korean NOT Chinese! Sima Qian who wrote Chinese history was mostly lies! They STOLE “Han” from the Koreans and applied it to these Sichuan Asiatics. This is why the PRC is so secretive in their archaeological excavations on Hongshan and other archaeological excavations. If Korea was so backward then why wasn’t it taken over by the “Chinese?” The only reason Korea was so close to the Ming Empire was because the Yongle Emperor, Zhu Di, was HALF-KOREAN! His mother was taken from the Mongols (Mongols forced Korean royalty to marry Mongol Royalty but Zhu Di’s mother was just a concubine). Zhu DI moved the capital which was safer down south up to BEIJING closer to the Mongols and Jurchens! Why? Because HE FELT KINSHIP to them despite the dangers of invasion. He ask Korea to send women (concubines), cooks, and other men (to become eunuchs which Zhu DI’s father hated and distrusted). Working with Korea they helped curb the Jurchen invasion and the Jurchens were in a good economic position created by the half Korean Ming Emperor. There is NO CHINA! Japanese are Koreans through and through which is why Korea and Japan dominate the automobile, electronic, and other industries. Japanese imperialism in WW2 was just a continuation of Baekje’s colonialism! One last thing, Gutenberg didn’t change the world it was Korea – Look up Jikji on youtube!
Nonsense, don’t you understand that the people of the Yayoi period could have come from multiple origins? Therefore they could have come from both China and Korea. Your opinions are hovering on nationalistic obsession. Relax and take a deep breath before you have a heart attack. Flabbing on about automobiles and a so-called half Korean concubine etc, please stop you sound pitiful.
I believe the Yayoi main bloodline was originally from Northern Korea and Southern Siberia due to the genetic linkages and the founding of a man in Yamaguchi Prefecture that had the same profile as another skeleton found in Siberia. The Yayoi culture could have been a mixture of several tribes including Koreans, Tungusics and maybe the odd Han or ethnic minority south of the Yangtze. If the tribe was open to miscegenation and absorbing other people’s, this may explain the origination in Jiangsu, China. The tribe wandered north long before China was unified under Qin Shi Huang, settling in modern day North Korea, China and Russia. It absorbed other tribes and gave birth to an admixture in modern Koreans and then an offshoot of Koreans came the Yayoi, then they moved to Japan bringing their genes and mixing with the Emishi and Ebisu types, well known Jomon descendants. An originally Jomon language was then mixed with a dialect of Korean which brang about a total mixed population in terms of language, culture and ethnicity. Then these descendants called themselves 大和 or Yamato. The Yamato brang Chinese culture back to mix with the local practices giving birth to modern Japan.
Despite the seemed unity of appearance Jomon tribes, however they ranged fairly different from North to South hence the fairly diverse appearances of Japanese people mixed with Yayoi.
So my theory is that the Yayoi may have originated from Southern China very early, however Siberians and Tungusics provided the majority of bloodline, hence their appearance, language and cultural similarities. However Koreans and Japanese having admixture with Southeast Asians may have come via the earliest admixture in Jiangsu, or the southern route absorbing Indian, Southeast Asian immigrants through Okinawa and Taiwan.
At this point, half of the comments gone Korean nationalistic af. While I’m no supporter of China’s political movement, the very existence of China, is just part of the human history, being recorded not just in classical Chinese writings, but also by other foreign historical texts. While I know that the rights of self-naming or the act of calling and naming of a particular group of people for political gain could be controversial, the term ‘Han Chinese’ and just ‘Chinese’, both are use to referring to people with Chinese ethnicity (at least in English, I don’t know is it different in the Chinese language), the bad connotation that some may have towards the term, is just a result of them overthinking that the term is used to show superiority over others. Which is true, sometimes, but not always the case(especially in research publication like these). Same thing could be said for ‘Yamato’ Japanese, and the ‘American’.
Things that people tend to misjudged, is that being a descendants of any doesn’t mean that you’re actually part of them, and are part of their colonial belongings or whatever. Through DNA and bloodline, yes. But what you assumed, is that Koreans and Japanese are the same race from everything, genetic, culture, language, teaching, apart from the Chinese, which you assumed as a foreign ethnicity. That’s not the case here, while some similarities came across in these three communities, and some are borrowed from each other, they are distinctly different from each other in their own kind.
Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, we’re the same being, human, only our cultures that differ from one another. In my personal view, (which may differs from person-to-person, researcher-to-researcher, and if you’re here for another intention.), Finding out and tracing back our ancestry doesn’t mean that we absolutely need to be finding out who differs from who, and who doesn’t belong to one another; it’s about finding out which group of civilization that started, cultivated, influenced and contributed the most to the current-day culture, the starting point. As well as how genetically close they are, in relation to the human of the modern times.
The point is, we’re all human. What’s the point of arguing, when we could accept the appeals, similarities and specialities of each other.
Claiming all things Korea… hmm, your comment really do sounds a lot like these auto generated comments on this weird website.
Confucious, Mao, Japanese, Atilla the Hun and Genghis Khan are all Korean.
Anyway, to a non fantasy butterflies dream world, Japanese came only from Han chinese and South East Asians in Kyushu and Okinawana with thousands of migrations including Xu Fu (Fukuoka named after him).
1.Wokou- “Japanese pirates” who raided the Korean coast are recorded numerous times to be ethnic han Chinese.
2. Rice DNA destroys Korean migration theory, Koreans did not even carry a majority of rice in Kyushu.
3. Taiwanese, Okinawan aboriginals docuoment numrous trades and pirates from China going North to Kyushu.
4. Wa State(Japan) first ruler Himiko claimed herself to be the descendent of King of Taibo of Wu.
5. Japanese carry far greater Ydna (O3) Than Koreans even though Koreans carry a large amount as well due to Han Chinese.
6. Han Chinese Commandaries exists everywhere on the penninsula and even the modern day capital Seoul(City of Han) is named after Han Chinese
7. Koreans lacked naval abilities, navigation and sea warfare, therefore none of Korean states dared to live close to the shroes and Silla was almost destroyed by frequent raids from Wa(Japan).
8. Halogroup 2b are given to South Koreans from Japanese WW2 soldiers and frequent raids from Xiongnu(Mongolic), Xiangbei(Mongoloic) and Jurchen(Manchu) raids upon Korean Territories. This is why North Koreans have almost to no 2b.
Conclusion Korean fantasies are beyond autistic and scientic DNA dosnt lie.
Yukimura…Your comment seems to be the most comprehensive and I am Korean, by the way. The Jin State in early Korean history with the stone dagger culture is the most similar to the daggers found in Yayoi period artifacts. Wiman Joseon (Gojoseon) prevented Jin from communicating with Han China and that’s why there was war. Perhaps, there was a great migration to the Japanese archipelago during this time. These migrations may have set the precedent to later migrations (2nd century to 660 AD until Paekche fell) between Paekche/Kaya and Yamato/Asuka Japan. This could explain the cultural and linguistic affinities between ancient Korea and Japan. Korean and Japanese language don’t share native words but I think this can be explained. Maybe Japanese language inherited native vocabulary from Jomon tribes and Polynesian lines. The later Yayoi language could be related to proto-Buyeo languages which in turn also developed into Goguryeo and Paekche languages. But I’d still be open to Jin State influence which covered all of southern Korea before they separated into Mahan and Jinhan etc. This is really fascinating.
We know that the ancient people of the Yangzi delta, from the very impressive Liangzhu culture, right down to the Warring States of Wu & Yue just before the appearance of the Yayoi people, were not Sino-Tibetan and that they likely spoke languages related to Tai-Kadai / Austronesian. Could it be that the genetic similarlity between them and the Yayoi was due to refugees who left the state of Yue after it was conquered by neighbouring Chu, shortly before the first Yayoi settlements started? Do note that the distance between China & Japan is nearer than generally thought if the folks island hopped via the Ryukyu archipelago. Note that this in no way claims that there was no movement via Korea. I don’t see why there there could not be two sources of migration. Who knows, the Korean factor was perhaps somewhat later, with the colonization by the Baekje kingdom, and which wiped out the original Yayoi since O-M119 is so rare in modern Japan?
I must agree with Korean professor , chayrlpanda and Vaiay and few others because Japanese citizens are of Korean orgin and their tribes the rest are made up bull stories. emperor of japan admitted of being baekjea ethnic Koreans so what else do you we need to prove ?
Here’s a article, for you and the others that claimed that Japanese lineage started with migrated Korean by simply referencing to the emperor’s quote of being descended from Korean ancestry to read.
sorry many people bring nationalistic pride here! where is japanese come from? china or korea? are japanese descended from Han chinese or Korean?
ok i want to explain it!
Han chinese is just NEW term created by modern chinese government! Han is a one of chinese dynasty name! Han empire!
from genetic study, we know Korea and Chinese have a similar genetic! but Han chinese know have very very diverse genetic pattern, they have too many genetic influence from north to south!
so north han chinese and korea have “similar genetic” and come from one ancestor, but they develope different culture, but they still have a relation in genetic and culture! so where japanese come from? many places, from chinese from korea and from south china!
in 2500BC there is only neolithic china not han dynasty, there is still no han chinese! even in 1000 BC there is no Han, its zhou dynasty! it’s all proto han chinese!
meanwhile in korea, no dynasty has founded yet in 2500BC
so they are all ancestor of yayoi people! then yayoi people come to japan and do mix marriage with local people jomon, and their descendant become modern japanese now!
So that means Han Chinese were wet rice farmers who brought wet paddy rice to Japan in ancient times right?
Well, I don’t want to get ahead of myself as I am about to launch another post reviewing the latest Sep 2021 paper “Ancient genomics reveals tripartite origins of Japanese populations”
https://www.science.org/doi/pdf/10.1126/sciadv.abh2419. But the short answer to your question picked from the findings of this latest paper with DNA from Kofun tombs, is that
1) “wet rice farming was introduced to the archipelago by people who lived somewhere around the Liaodong Peninsula but who derive a major component of their ancestry from populations further north, although the spread of rice agriculture originated south of the West Liao River basin.”
2) (Author underlines the state formation phase and the keyhole tomb mound characteristic of this period but notes that) “The three Kofun individuals sequenced in this study were not buried in those tumuli … which suggests that they were lower-ranking people. Their genomes document the arrival of people with majority East Asian ancestry to Japan and their admixture with the Yayoi population (Fig. 5 and fig. S17). This additional ancestry is best represented in our analysis by Han, who have multiple ancestral components. A recent study has reported that people became morphologically homogeneous in the continent from the Neolithic onward (56), which implies that migrants during the Kofun period were already highly admixed.”
On admixture: The author notes the Han character or origins, as well as the strong affinity between the Yellow River region, South Korean peninsula and Japanese communities
The paper is limited by the few samples of Kofun DNA which do not include DNA from most elite of the tomb burials, but seeing how we have never had Kofun tumuli DNA, this paper presents a precious first look at Kofun DNA.